Zionist propaganda

Doesn’t the torah say that g-d promised the land of israel to the jews ?

Much religious Zionist propaganda revolves around G-d’s promise to give the land to the Jews. However, they ignore the fact, clearly written in the Torah numerous times, that the promise was made only on condition that the Jews follow the commandments. If not, they would be exiled from the Land. That is indeed what happened: after G-d warned us many times through His prophets (as can be read in the Books of the Prophets), He caused us to be exiled from the Land. As the Book of Lamentations makes clear, it was not our weakness that caused us to lose the Land; rather it was G-d’s punishment for our sins, and He warned us with an oath that we should not return from the Exile, and not go up to the Holy Land en masse.

Every day, twice a day, all observant Jews recite the Shma, which consist of verses from the Torah. There it states clearly that G-d warned us that if we failed to keep the commandments, He would send us into exile. We have now been in exile for almost 2000 years. At any time, if the Jewish people repents and follows the Torah, G-d could end the exile and bring us back to the Holy Land. But we leave it up to Him to decide when we are worthy of this. We are forbidden to return and conquer the Holy Land on our own, as the Zionists have done.

As Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, the great leader of German Orthodox Jewry, wrote in the 1830's: “The Torah obliges us, further, to allow our longing for the far-off land to express itself only in mourning, in wishing and hoping; and only through the honest fulfilment of all Jewish duties to await the realization of this hope. But it forbids us to strive for the reunion or possession of the land by any but spiritual means.” (Horeb pp. 460-461)

It is especially absurd when secular Zionists quote a promise from G-d – when they themselves do not believe in the promise, they do not believe in G-d and in His Torah, and in fact, they trample upon His Torah with both feet, persecuting and oppressing religious Jews. How can they have the audacity to come to the nations of the world and talk about G-d’s promise? How are they not ashamed to even talk about G-d? How hypocritical can one be?

Finally, well-meaning non-Jews who quote this Biblical promise should be made aware that it does not apply in the present era, and that having a Jewish state now only brings danger upon Jews. If they wish to show kindness to the Jewish people, the best way is to welcome Jews as their neighbors in whatever countries they live.

Is it true that the Jews, all Jews, await a messiah and that this messiah would end the exile, liberate the jews? how suppose it happens, wouldn't then today's non-zionist jews (you) become zionists, in that they then also want to have an independent israel under jewish rule? how "friendly" would that "messiah-israel" be with the arabs, the latter not accepting your messiah?

Your question is based on a mistaken premise about the meaning of the messiah and the Jewish conception of the messianic world. You are assuming the messiah will be a Jewish leader who leads the Jews to statehood and forces the non-Jews to comply – similar to Zionism.

However, the true Jewish concept of the messiah is that he will be a spiritual leader who will inspire all Jews to follow the Torah and bring G-d's message to all Mankind. The world will become a spiritual place, and all the nations of the world will worship G-d together with one heart. There will be no wars; no nation will oppress any other. All will form one organization to do the will of G-d wholeheartedly.

“For then I will change the nations to a clear speech, that all of them will call in the name of G-d, to serve Him with one shoulder.” (Zephaniah 3:9) “The earth will be full of the knowledge of G-d as the waters cover the sea.” (Isaiah 11:9)

“And it shall come to pass in the end of days, that the mountain of the House of G-d will be established as the greatest of mountains, higher than all the hills, and all the nations will stream to it. Many nations will come and they will say, ‘Let us ascend to the mountain of G-d, to the house of the G-d of Jacob, and let Him teach us His ways, and let us walk in His paths, for from Zion Torah will emerge, and the word of G-d from Jerusalem. And he will judge between the nations, and give rebuke to many peoples, and they will beat their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.” (Isaiah 2:2-4)

And the prayer Aleinu, recited by Jews three times a day, says as follows:

Therefore we put our hope in You, L-rd our G-d, to soon see the glory of Your strength, to remove all idols from the Earth, and to completely cut off all false gods; to repair the world, Your holy empire, and for all living flesh to call Your name, and for all the wicked of the Earth to turn to You. May all the world's inhabitants recognize and know that to You every knee must bend and every tongue must swear loyalty. Before You, L-rd, our G-d, may all bow down, and give honor to Your precious name, and may all take upon themselves the yoke of Your rule. And may You reign over them soon and forever and always. Because all rule is Yours alone, and You will rule in honor forever and ever, as it is written in Your Torah: "The L-rd will reign forever and ever." And it is said: "The L-rd will be King over the whole Earth; on that day, the L-rd will be One, and His name will be One.”

This is what we are waiting for. We are not permitted to do anything with our own hands to go up from the Exile; everything that will be done will be done by G-d Himself. It will happen with the complete agreement and joy of all nations. It will not be forced upon them, and no land will be stolen from them.

These events will take place at a time that G-d alone will determine. The Talmud teaches that we are not even supposed to try to guess or calculate (based on Biblical verses) when that time will come.

Likewise, our belief about the future of the Temple Mount is based on the verses of the Bible. When the redemption of the world takes place, a pre-built Temple will come down in fire from heaven. “And I will be for it a wall of fire all around, and for honor I will be within it." (Zechariah 2:9) And in the Talmud, Bava Kama 60b we read: "He that lighted the fire shall surely pay. Said the Holy One, blessed is He: I burned a fire in Zion and I will build it in fire. A similar statement appears in the prayerbook: "For You, G-d, lit it on fire, and You will one day build it in fire." All nations will agree to the establishment of this heavenly Temple, and all will come to worship G-d there.

One must always keep in mind that it is not religion and belief that creates conflict; it is the attempt to put belief into practice at the expense of other people. Therefore, for hundreds of years Jews lived peacefully among Muslims. The Muslims knew that the Jews believed that their people would one day return to the Holy Land when G-d made it happen, but that didn't bother them, because they didn't believe it and it didn't affect them. But the minute that Jews stand up and take their own initiative to take over the Holy Land as the Zionists do, it gives rise to hatred. This is what we must avoid. Judaism teaches that the messianic redemption doesn't mean us imposing our will or religion on others; it will be a time when everyone will see the hand of G-d and accept whatever He does.

Why don’t you believe that the establishment of the state of Israel is the beginning of the messianic era?

The Talmud (Sanhedrin 98a) teaches that if Jews create a state, in violation of the Torah, it must be dismantled before the messianic era: "The son of David will not come until the low government is gone from the Jewish people." The eleventh century commentator Rashi explains: "Until the Jewish people will have no sovereignty, even a minor and lowly one."

The reason for this is easy to understand. The messianic era will be a time when the world is filled with the knowledge of G-d. All nations will seek G-d and follow His laws. Part of His law is that Jews must trust in Him that he placed them in exile for a good reason and He knows the proper time to end it. To end the exile early is heresy and rebellion against G-d. Furthermore, the Zionist state, far from spreading the honor of G-d and His Torah in the world, actually does the opposite. It desecrates the name of the Torah by causing non-Jews to see the Torah as violent and unjust, and it tramples on the Torah internally by encouraging Jews to abandon their own religion. Since the Zionist state is the complete antithesis what will come to pass with the coming of the messiah, the Zionist state cannot be the first stages of the messiah’s coming, and on the contrary the state must be dismantled before he can come..

Religious Zionists make the claim that the state is the beginning of the messianic era, citing certain Talmudic and Rabbinic sources. However, their claims are false, and there are no references to a mass ingathering of Jews being one of the stages before the messiah. All the texts they cite are actually referring to stages in the process after the messiah arrives.